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First, thank all of you have stuck with this blog even after I neglected it. I apologize for not being around in previous weeks---if you didn’t know, there was massive flooding in our area, eleven dead, thousands of people lost their homes and schools are still out, 170 school buses ruined. Our home was intact even though we have a creek that runs just behind our property and it was in danger of swelling when Bayou Manchac peaked. Our high banks saved us. We were trapped for a while; stores weren't stocked; there was a lot of commotion. In the meantime, Bleach was ending, a series as all of you know meant the world to me. I’d stuck with it to the end, had felt it going off the tracks but had loved so much of the last arc, the character of Askin, two ban kais in particular—Kenpachi’s and Urahara’s—and the beautiful Haschwalth and Bazz backstory. The Memories in the Rain arc was lovely. Flashes of Kubo’s talent were everywhere. I knew he wasn’t listening to editors and by the time the final two chapters came out, I felt trolled.

In the Final Days of Bleach, I only got two hate letters, one persistent teenager calling me “dumb” and “ableist” and “gross” and I promptly answered her as gently as I could and blocked her on Tumblr because I was sure she was getting her information from one familiar source, a person who for years went on a hate campaign against this site, painting it as a sexist place where Orihime hate reigned and where people were mocked. I knew there was a post made in recent weeks by this person on Tumblr maligning this site—why, I don’t know—there’s so little activity here, but the bitterness is there. Like I said to a new Bleach fan, I never expected the bitterness to go away, no matter what outcome in Bleach. In fact, let me copy what I wrote to her, because I know some of you will be dealing with mockery and hate:

“They don’t deserve your graciousness and intelligence. It bounces right off them. They aren’t being celebratory; they are being vindictive and petty. This sort of drama stirs up like dust storms for a short time (maybe reoccurring dust storms for years, lol) but in the end it’s just dust, never anything to advance real understanding. I’ve only seen it expose people for who they are; believe me, few people I’ve observed in fandom have grown up much or changed in the 12-13 years and of newcomers, there are just more of the same. No single one person in fandom, had the ending of Bleach gone this way or that, had all plotholes been satisfied, had Kubo had a solid grip on his final arc and never quarreled with editors, would be that much different–spiteful people would still be spiteful people, those who spread lies and never admitted to being wrong would still be that way, trolls would still be trolls, the casual fans would still be casual, the nice people would still be nice, hysterics would still be hysterics, the analytical would still be analytical, the accusatory would still be accusatory, the petty would still be petty. I actually admire my friends who had the foresight to leave fandom when the train went off the tracks a few years back—but I guess I don’t regret some of the beautiful moments of the last arc– Urahara’s ban kai, Askin’s whole character, Jugo and Bazz, and any and all Ishida.

Don’t waste your precious mind on spiteful, mean, insecure people. Remember I want happy endings for you. Those who try to engage you to shit on you constantly will never get their happy endings in RL, trust me on that one.”

More than hate, I’m grateful for all the amazing kind messages I’ve received from people who I thought had long disappeared from fandom—I got emails, DMs on social media sites, many of which made me cry because they were so personal and kind. Some bonds cannot be broken. Kubo may have betrayed his story but he can never take away my friends, some of the loveliest people I’ve known, some of whom have travelled miles, one even across the ocean, to meet me in real life. Many left Bleach when they grew bored of it, but our lives were always more about pairings or goings-on in a Japanese story. I’m grateful to all of you, acquaintances, lurkers and friends, who were with me for part or all of this journey. I started bleachness as a reservoir for my own fic and art and meta ramblings so as not to annoy non-Bleach fans on my main LJ blog and it became something bigger---so many people misunderstood that, expected it to be an unbiased newscast for Bleach information and my own blog and cast me, of all people, as an Orihime hater, and an elitist. One of the things I answered a note I got on Tumblr was about the inside joke about the English degrees the mods on bleachness had---we liked lit crit; some of those mods are lawyers now; I was an English teacher off and on; the ones who accused us of elitism wrote their own meta even when they said “it’s only a story for 13-year-old boys.” And I will say now for the record I was wrong in interpreting much of the final arc, especially regarding pairings. Kubo at some point went off track, Rukia disappeared totally, he said that “Ichigo was the protagonist of the human side and Rukia was the protagonist of the Shinigami side,” foreshadowing that Ichigo would stay in the human world, despite the Fullbringer arc being all about Ichigo’s identifying with the Shinigami, being heartsick over Rukia. In the end “I can’t keep up with the speed of the world without you” and “the love and destiny Ichigo inherited” was erased. I was wrong. I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong. I do believe I was misled, though.

Deathberry will probably (I’m not sure) go down in a few months, due to lack of interest from the caretakers and because its expensive to maintain—one of the mods pays for it herself. The IchiHime site FLOL is paid for by ads. Fandoms can’t be killed by any author, no matter what he or she does to the canon story—that has long been my observation. I haven’t seen such an outpouring of fic and art in the last week in the Bleach fandom in years. I swore I was going to move past Bleach, but I even wrote one. It was part of my grieving ritual. I was ready to let Bleach go a year ago, but at the moment all this feels like a bad break-up, and I have a few more steps to process before I can truly move on. I’ll leave this site up—it’s a lifetime account, bought when Live Journal was giving those out, so it stays as long as Live Journal stays, which is not a solid guarantee of anything of course.

I’m going to copy a few reactions I posted (and edited for clarity) from other places while I was avoiding my own blog. Thank you to my friends who posted in the chapter thread. It was difficult for me to come here. I have some issues still about this site, some pain. There are reminders here of some of the worst of fandom as well as the best.

I will claim to the end I never hated Orihime so let’s get that out of the way first. I wanted the best for her, and my more cynical friends told me I would be disappointed. I did not believe them. I should’ve. The general sexism of shounen and Kubo’s own tendency to write Orihime inconsistently, his rage when audiences didn’t accept her, his increasing trivialization of her should have been a clue. Orihime’s character degraded from the time she was the adorable girl by the river chasing dragonflies with a best friend to the time she was single-mindedly pursuing a boy; it seemed like a familiar character; I actually thought Kubo was making fun of it; it turns out he rewarded that giddy devotion—I could give so many panels where Orihime didn’t “get” Ichigo’s character but persisted in her love, but I don’t think Bleach is worth my analysis anymore. I can just say that I was wrong; Kubo, who has said in interview that he likes to champion characters audiences don’t like, screwed over the giant IchiRuki fanbase (I saw yesterday the horrified faces of the Burimyu actors who play Ichigo and Ruki holding WSJ covers over their mouths) and rewarded Orihime with the main character.

But he didn’t even do it right. He gave her no romance.

I’ll quote some from other places:

“I don't hate Orihime. I just died a little when I saw her in that apron in the Korean scan (still haven't read the chapter). I guess her big character development was that in 10 years she learned to cook. She wanted to be so many things in her five lifetimes speech--which unlike so many IR fans here, I actually liked--I thought it was poignant and representative of a teenage girl's love. It was the gross fanservice--the hotdogs with the mushroom pajamas and that awful dress that got me later. Her not being able to cook was always an endearing quality to me. I can't cook for shit either but I have other strengths. And I've heard that she uses Tsubaki to babysit her kid---her offensive fairy that was teased for the whole manga and which many expected her to use in battle. Used for BABYSITTING. Yes, this is a feminist issue. And so many bloggers and fanbois going OH MY MY KARIN GOT HERSELF SOME BOOBIES AND OOOH WEEEE WTG ICHIGO GOT THE BOOBS is just .... yeah, no. It's not about boobs. I like big boobs myself. One of my longtime gfs in my life before marriage had huge boobs and a very feminine look, I understand the appeal, believe me. I also expect women to be more than just their mammary glands. I expect them to accomplish their dreams independent of what is expected of them by men and a sexist society. So Orihime got her wish finally to protect Ichigo--that was good, I was ok with that, I was more than happy with that. I was sorry we didn't get to see her fire Tsubaki independently in battle (his being used in training with Ginjou was another tease). Never mind Ichigo not really getting a good fight but that was rushed to the end, bad planning and because of many reasons, mainly how WSJ works and how it’s honored Kubo for this last arc despite their disagreements, I believe Kubo had more than enough time to prepare and wandered in the past six months or a year. Orihime gets little panel time in the last chapter and again, not much interaction with Ichigo---there was never that chemistry there--but whatever. The ship itself isn't as heartbreaking as Orihime never getting any character development and being used so blithely for fanservice throughout the latter part of the series. Matsumoto was supposed to get a backstory and THERE was a mature strong woman--what happened to THAT? Orihime--I'd complained about her development forever and still believed Kubo would resolve her in the end. No, I didn't even hold out hope for IshiHime in the last chapters--there was too much one-sidedness (like IchiHime or RenRuki, I thought) and a timeskip would solve that but be awkward as shit. But the sight of her in an apron almost as a parody of Sakura was a real blow.

Like most things in that last chapter were a real blow. I mean, I used to defend Kubo all the time. Yes, he's a sexist Japanese man. What are his worst sins, I would say--shitty pacing and he likes big boobs. Turns out those were BIG SINS. Wow, his pacing was so bad he couldn't tie up dozens of loose threads, not even a few crucial ones that could’ve explained simple things—like who was the Soul King and how did Aizen get back in the bond chair, and omg, the big boobs thing turned out to be a fetish. I will still remember some of the things I loved about the last arc but Orihime went downhill so fast in Bleach and every time I got hope for her development, I was crushed. Kubo could've even developed her relationship with Ichigo. He could've put something dear and touching between the two, even had Ichigo thank her for fixing his ban kai, something, anything---instead there was that comedic panel in which she was humiliated and cried over wearing that dress and thinking Ichigo thought she was a hentai. That was disgusting and IH loved that as evidence of their pairing. No, they have their canon based on that sort of shallowness.

Orihime was so adorable when first presented. The SS arc was Bleach when Kubo was on a roll. I don't know what happened (well, I actually do know a little but hell if I'll ever tell). The Arrancar arc was spotty and he kept reeling us in with flashes of brilliance and Orihime kept having her moments of fail but her moments like slapping Ulquiorra or realizing that she didn't fear him in the end (one of Bleach's greatest moments, truly) and then the FB arc started and the Orihime jokes like Orihime vision just made me think Kubo was making fun of her. How could anyone in his or her right mind believe she was meant as the "love and destiny Ichigo inherited" after the MITR arc? Ichigo treated her like a nakama whereas Rukia was always more than a nakama... but I've gone on enough--it's really about more than the ship. It's about Orihime being the ideal of the Japanese housewife, and that trope itself is yuck. I have nothing against housewives--I've been one off and on to homeschool special needs kids and I value people who do it, but Orihime had dreams. She had an offensive weapon. Yeah, Tsubaki was used a babysitter. That was.... wrong. Tell me that wasn't a FU.

It’s so much more than the ships–I do believe many people who read Bleach primarily for the ships are projecting their own obsessions onto others. I still believe Kubo had plenty time to wrap up a few key plot details, if given six months or six weeks, but the ending read like a huge FU to his story and fandom–it was so weird. I enjoyed some parts of the final arc even when it was clear it was going off the tracks, but most of my salt is about Mayuri living, SS not changing and remaining the corrupt institution it always was, Urahara–where?, Matsumoto backstory–not necessary anymore but KIRA where? How the hell did Aizen get back in the chair? That could’ve been explained in one line. Was the bro-con with Yuzu comedy really necessary? Wtf was it with her new hair color. Ok, we get it that Karin’s boobs got bigger. Kubo really likes boobs. I was already prepared not to expect an explanation of Rukia’s missing years on Earth or the Soul King backstory or any more Quincy backstory. But I was gutted by Ishida facing away in the CP–I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: it would’ve been so easy for him to turn around and smile with his friends or be at the party in the chapter, especially after his nakama speech of all time and after joining the enemy to die and being willing to have everyone believe he was a traitor so he would SACRIFICE HIMSELF to their sake. Ishida alone. Ishida alone. I felt like I’d been personally slapped in the face. ISHIDA SO ALONE.

My grief for Orihime is extreme. People have always called me an Orihime hater. I’ve criticized her character before but I always thought she’d make it. I cheered for her when she was fighting with Ichigo because she’d wanted to do that for years and been sidelined by the plot, but after her initial adorableness is SS arc (the arc that did no wrong) she was used for fanservice more and more and more–and I think I started losing it when she was shown holding a hot dog—and so many people, not just guys oblivious to the concept of the Male Gaze, defended it as “just a hot dog.” Forget the mushroom pajamas. People, her dress in the Arrancar arc had a cut over her crotch and her outfit in the final arc had a boob window. Representations of Orihime’s love in the FB arc seemed to mock her while Ichigo pined for Rukia. Bizarro world. And the sight of Orihime in an apron was gutting–so her achievement was she learned to cook in 10 years? In canon she said she wanted to be an astronaut. A teacher. Is she the ideal Japanese trophy wife? Did Ichigo interact much with her at ALL? Tsubaki, her offensive weapon, who was teased for years, ends up being A BABYSITTER. Oh please. I babysit. I think there’s no holier occupation that picking up a child so a woman can do something else with her useful hands but Tsubaki was supposed to represent Orihime’s KILLING INSTINCT, that which she had to some degree and was used in defense of Tatsuki once and never again to protect the innocent. So Tsubaki is supposed to squash any bug that Orihime’s super-powered baby comes across. No. Doesn’t work like that. We never saw Tsubaki in battle, forget Shinji’s ban kai. Tsubaki had three arcs--no wait four if you count the first time he went down on that roof-top--of build-up.

People have tried to console me with the headcanon that Urahara and Yoruichi went off somewhere because the ending embarrassed them—the sight of Ichigo on his dad’s sofa like Al Bundy. So the tickets being given out to his friends was a tease and Ichigo ended up where he started, sitting on his father’s sofa—what Shounen hero does that? Ends up where he started 13 years later? But it’s the Mayuri still being captain that hurts the most. And Nemu being rebuilt. I heard so many people going “kawaaaiiiiiii” over baby! Nemu and only one dude going OH G-D PLEASE CALL SS CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES. And why was the world, the corrupt SS that Ichigo was supposed to change not changed? And the execution site that he cracked once upon a time rebuilt stronger and bigger? While he’s reset to the very beginning, where he started, back at home—and SS is the same, none of its values changed–Rukia’s speech about he had changed SS completely erased.

I loved Bleach so much once, and that love was erased too."

I'll post a fic later. I still love the characters. More power to all those who are reclaiming them and more power to transformative art, "fix-it" fic and those who love what they love continuing to love. I will always have a special place for Ishida Uryuu and Urahara Kisuke and others in my heart but the canon story--it died for me with the end. I can only liken this end to a divorce. We had some good times, but I have to move on.
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LOL. Okaaay, as those of you who were following fandom for info about the Bleach movie 4 know, there's been this insistent spammer on [livejournal.com profile] bleachness and other sites with "proof" that Orihime is indeed going to be in the movie. No one ever really doubted him, but the persistent rule breaking and multiple accounts of Spammer-san caused him to be banned here and there (he became only the second person in this community's history to be banned). You'll remember from this post that I told Spammer-san that I only post double-confirmed info here, but I let a comment from him with a source from this blogger who had seen the trailer stand because Spammer-san just wouldn't leave us alone. The information he spread eventually became gospel.

Well, it's been recanted by the blogger he was quoting:

http://ameblo.jp/kiriyamamifune/entry-10606533004.html

The blogger has corrected her information; the person she saw in the trailer was YUZU, she said, not Orihime. She saw the Naruto movie again and subsequently saw the Bleach Movie 4 trailer again and noticed this time that who she thought was Orihime was indeed Yuzu. I find this curious, but apparently some seasoned Bleach fans elsewhere in Western fandom were also mistaking Yuzu for Orihime in the Movie 4 ad.

For the record, I find it highly unlikely that Orihime is NOT going to appear in this Bleach movie but here's a great example of what happens when a little bit of unverified info takes off running and gets established as fact. I'm sure we'll see the full trailer eventually on the movie website. Patience is a virtue, people.

Oy fandom

Nov. 24th, 2009 11:13 pm
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Oy fandom. If I really wanted to exploit my ever-growing POWAH in the land where people shoot the shit about cartoons (this girl appreciates but knows too well the cosmic significance of a humble el-jay community that is pushing a mere thousand members of Bleachtards), I could tell you guys a backstage story or two, gossip more than a little bit, hang some dirty laundry on my clothesline, but honest-to-Kubo, I'd really rather talk about the actual Bleach manga than about petty goings-on in fandom---as entertaining as these fan goings-on can be. (Wanna read a fun gossipy LJ fan journal? PM me!) I did, however, really want to make an entry tonight that made some clucking noises of disapproval (I've been in fandom too long now to make loud, venting, about-to-explode noises of distress) over some fandom brats at Bleach Asylum who took offense at my signature--because said signature linked to this community.

Yeah ... well, long story short, it does seem that links to certain essays in [livejournal.com profile] bleachness were reported to moderators of BA. I was going to start writing my tsk tsk entry but then I read Jenni's blog entry for today and found that she'd said everything better than I could. (I'm so happy for my lawyer and law student friends. If I ever get into any trouble with the MAN one day, I'll have all sorts of eloquent people stepping up to my defense). Anyway, I'm still more than a little amused that the same people who reported my sig that had a direct link to this analysis of Bleach in it by a horrible horrible IchiRuki shipper either did or did notice the direct link to this essay by a wicked wicked IchiOri shipper in it. Or maybe the entire scope of the comments and shipping controversy in general--or maybe the big words?--were just too much that the tattletales felt strongly enough that the delicate members of BA should be protected from accidentally clicking on such links and being exposed to the confusion and horror and wickedness that is this live journal community of bleach fans. O__O

Saints preserve us.

And may Santen Kesshun shield us all.
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Good Morning. I haven't read all the shipping wank generated from my comments in the previous post on this community and in other places and neither do I intend to.  Like my husband always says, you DO NOT want to see debbie get really mad.

Congratulations [livejournal.com profile] jaina for being called an "IchiRuki nutjob"--silly epithets come with visibility in fandom. It used to bother me a lot when [livejournal.com profile] ileenka was called "batshit insane" or [livejournal.com profile] syneiam was called a "bitch" and less so when I was called a "pompous cunt," but you know that the level of discourse has descended to kindergarten when this sort of name-calling starts. When the name-calling starts, it's time to check out.

I'm asking for a truce--that is, please refrain from posting on this matter in [livejournal.com profile] bleachness because I won't be online to moderate this weekend. Please feel free to carry on in your personal journals and elsewhere.

As for the suggestion that I say somewhere in the user information that this community is not "IchiHime friendly," no I won't do that.  I have friends in this community who ship Ichigo and Orihime; I delete posts that bash the pairing; I discourage shipping wank.  I'm not a draconian mod, as I believe people can better work out problems on their own rather than being censored and smashed into appropriate behavior, but I don't tolerate extreme disrespect.  I make mistakes; I rarely mean to bash people, only their ideas, and if I've unduly hurt someone's feelings, I will apologize. But if someone acts like a turd, I will call a turd a turd.

My personal shipping tastes color this community, yes, but people put up with them---the many fanbois who are members here and who are grossed out by yaoi have learned to grin and bear my squeeing about yaoi-ships. I write yaoi and post BL pics. I don't believe that Ichigo and Orihime are the canon-destined pair of the Bleach manga, but I've discussed the issue with civil fans before. There is no way I would characterize [livejournal.com profile] bleachness  as "IchiHime unfriendly"---I would characterize it as "Idiot unfriendly."  And even so, idiots can expect some friendliness here.

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Not long ago I was so happy to read Kubo-sensei's remarks to American fandom after his trip to SDCC.

I would be happy if through my work I am able to give you even half the strength you have given me.

Lines like that made me want to wax rhapsodic about the oodles of happy feelings fandom provides but I contained myself. A few capslock comments and squee-noises shared with some buds was enough. Fandom weariness, on the other hand, won't be contained, and I'm so fed up with fandom lately. The fandom blahs want me to be wordy. So here goes:



Okay, I feel a little better now.

Smile. Usually [personal profile] incandescens is putting together words in perfectly crafted fics but looky what she made recently!




The Bleach manga celebrates its seven year anniversary next week. I always forget how long I've been a fan. I started reading before the end of the SS arc--before Byakuya's backstory was finally revealed so I know to be patient. Isshin and Ryuuken and all these guys will get their stories told eventually. The secrets of the hougyoku will be known to me and I will create my master army.... etcetera, etcetera.... There will be plot resolution and I will stand in Heaven.

Sometimes justing thinking that we may get an Ulquiorra backstory before Christmas of this year makes today's laundry piles worth wading through! XD

Recs: Part 1 of Ulquiorra Essay by [personal profile] balladbird

Fanart of Equestrian Ulquiorra by Dessert Moon
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Manga-ka do this all the time. My Kubo needed a break. But instead of taking me to the Riviera, he's going to write character backstories. Yes, the rumor has been around for a while that Kubo was taking a two month break, and I was one of those who believed the rumor if only for the reason that Kubo NEEDED a damn break. But now I'm uncertain as to whether or not this break is going to start NOW (leaving us with 315 as a terrible cliffhanger) or whether it starts a little later. For more about this madness see the thread on Bleach Asylum, in particular yesterday's post which threw me into fangirl anxiety and despair.

eta: from nidaime:

今週で虚圏篇は一旦終了。次週からは「ある人達」の過去の物語が始まります。

That means: The HM saga has Finished and the flashbacks beging next week

I need certainty; if nothing else, I need certainty about my uncertainties.  (and now I have them *weeps*)


 ETA #2 (YES, I continue to be hysterical).  I just realized that the regular storyline will return in June! ZING! I called it! I called it! I said Ichigo would fight Ulquiorra for Tanabata!  Last year Ichigo fought Grimmjow for the exact weeks of Tanabata July through August.

Kubo does this thing. He wants it to be rainy when you read his "Memories in the Rain" chapters. He throws around little happenings on character birthdays. He had Orihime slap Ulquiorra on Valentine's day.

Oh, hit us over the head, will you Kubo? Five lifetimes, the fifth tower that Hime is trapped in. ARGH! There needs to be some resolution here. I expect shippers will be pulling out their hair, but I myself will be settled deep into my Lazy Boy with popcorn. It's been a long time coming, Kubo-sensei. You better have my girl Hime step up to the plate this Tanabata!
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I love "Perfect is Not GOod." My favorite Bleach chapter in a while. Dualism to the hilt. Poetry and humor and disturbing imagery. Subtle characterizations and not-so-subtle ones. All the things that made me love my manga-ka in the first place.

The husband teaches comparative religions in philosophy and I've been trying to rope him into reading manga for a while (even Death Note, with its stylish and cerebral plays on the Problem of Evil didn't move him). Maybe these two Bleach chapter covers for 305 and 306 might pique his interest.


To another topic. It's come to my attention that the internet is a nasty place. I used to mod a fan forum in my naive youth and I'd rather take a stroll through Mayuri's lab than do that again. The fun part, though, was always posting rules. Yesterday I came up with not rules but a few guidelines to avoid angst.

1. DON'T ASSUME THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO READ YAOI/BL ARE "HOMOPHOBIC." Some of my friends who just don't read the stuff totally support gay-lesbian-bi-transgendered rights.

2. CREDIT ARTISTS. Seriously, you can't go around right-clicking everything and uploading the arts on photobucket without the artists getting upset. Link and credit! Japanese sites are closing down because of this! See:
http://www3.to/ofp


3. Don't swim after you've eaten. Don't post after you had one too many beers.

That is all.

Man, I really need to fix the tags on this community. They're out of control. This numbering the manga episodes is going to blow my tag limit soon. I need to direct all my fiction into one spot---ARGH!
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The best Bleach pairing art coming out of Japan right now is (arguably) UlquiHime stuffs. Here's something g-g-g-g-gorgeous by an American artist who doesn't draw like everyone else who does anime fanart. I'm crazy for her style, the depth in her tones, the little stories in her pictures. Oh look at this! Look at this!

The Bribe by lookingback7

And I'm on vacation so I was late to get the news but pardon me while I spaz with joy:

SZAYEL WILL SING!. The next Bleach superstar! Bleach Beat Collection 3rd Session: Szayel Aporro Granz Vol. 06 due out March 5, 2008!

Now, to a more somber subject. Is it just me? Or is every other cranky fan shaking his or her head and going "there goes the neighborhood?" Did fandom cynicism hit me later than most? I've been in the Bleach fandom around 5 yrs now, so I think it's my perpetual naivete being whomped on the head every now and then. I must have reoccurring amnesia. I should've learned my lessons from my previous fandoms or from my tippy-toeings on Naruto boards

... or from freshman year in union cafeteria.... (warning: long obsessive rant ahead)



Oh, and because I still think the whole Nemu-rape topic is still worthy, here's a link to a friend's post on the subject:

Not Tonight Dear, I'm Disgusted
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Yes, it's the internet. No, it's not srs bsnz. But bullying, harrassment and just plain ole anonymous asshattery--it can take its toll. I didn't make public any of the harrassing emails I got a few months ago from fandom brats (although a few of you may have been treated to the crap they posted on my friends' LJs) but since Guildenstern is a ballsier person than I am and posted what someone said to her yesterday, I thought I'd share the comment with you. So you can marvel at its brilliant meanness.

Someone wrote this to my beloved Guildy... grrr...

Because of her gracious pointing out of an entire page of MADE UP TRANSLATION in a scan chapter yesterday, Guildy has also received several harrassing emails.  My friend Cezaria, who has translated here on Bleachness, my dear who drew me that effing gorgeous Hime for my birthday, got similarly spat upon.

I'm just pissed is all. It's one thing when you do it to me. It's quite another when you attack my friends. I get heartened when people discuss shipping intelligently on this comm and then disgusted when people do crap like this. Does fandom have to be this way? Can I go Eliot Ness on their asses and try to clean up my corner of Bleach?
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Looky, I made you a birthday card!

Warnings: not work safe, nudity, what looks like it may be heterosexual intercourse, cuteness, bad design

Erg, can't post this on DA and can't get this big enough here. Sometime this century I'll update my website and have it there.


Ya know. I love my fandom so much sometimes---like on silly days like today when IshiHimes are being posted here for Uryuu's birthday.
Places like Fandom Wank and [community profile] fandom_secrets can just kiss their own hypocritcal "you take fandom too seriously" asses because this is my fandom and I'll squee if I want to.

I've had a great deal of glee and erm... meaningful discourse... with fans this past week, especially in the wake of a "What do you get when you cross the Atlantic with the Titantic?" Kubo 298 cover spread. Just for posterity's sake and because I'm a ho, here's a much edited excerpt of what I posted in a friend's private LJ about the wankage. And it was wankery (how many collective nouns are there for this concept?) for the most part, not debate on race and privilege, critical theory, or the place of fandom in culture. All Who Are Merciful, Forgive Me My Fannishness and Judge Me Not.

YEY! )


Happy birthday, Uryuu! <3
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It's been over a year since I was laughed out of [community profile] soul_society  and right into fandom wank by asking, in all innocence--what's wrong with character bashing? I couldn't understand why people got their panties in a wad over criticism, however mild, of a character's personality or actions, and if someone said "I hate such-and-such" character, it was a call to war.

I furrowed my brow. Was I not getting it because of my harrowing graduate school education that made me wildly (as in "over-much") aware of the author over his creations? l can cry over a manga panel--it couldn't be that I didn't care for the characters.. Maybe but for a quirk of timing, my favorites would be parts of me. As it is, they're my idols and beloved representations of traits I admire. The ones with the most personal flaws are loved too because I'm a sucker for the redempion story. I can recognize myself in my favorite characters (If Ishida and Orihime had a baby, it would be me). But why did I not care about my characters being bashed when so many apparently did. Before I chalked it up to my missing a crucial area of brain function, I decided to observe and take notes.....

See, people could make fun of Uryuu Ishida from here to tomorrow and I'd laugh. A wise friend, though, told me---"It's not how you think and feel but how others think and feel." Learning fandom standards of acceptable fan behaviour comes with time, though. I admit, I've begrudgingly followed this descent into comformity the more internet wanks I've seen, and now, instead of thinking "have at it, folks," I think it's wise for moderators to keep their eyes on psychotic people.

I posted the following recently at Bleach Asylum when people were calling for a thread to be shut down, even before anyone had said anything personal against another poster (see, that's what I consider a no-no, attacking people not cartoons). Haven't heard a peep there yet so I'm wondering what people here can tell me about character bashing. How do you define it and to what lengths do you go to defend yourself from lunatics who will put the voo-doo on you if you criticize (as in analyze, joke about, or even mildly poo-poo) their favorite cartoon people? What is polite? What is not caring if you're banned from a forum? Who are ardent shippers and fans, really?



That was all. I'd been observing lately that a few calm voices in a busy thread can keep the personal attacks down. (Those who don't want to insult another person or cartoon character and get in trouble with a mod will pour on the sarcasm. Nothing rankles the opponent like pure irony when the mods can't say the poster didn't actually believe what he sarcastically wrote).

Just in case you haven't noticed, FANDOM IS INSANE. A friend was telling me the other day that some people don't get my sense of humor and think I'm quite the bitch, even on a normal non-premenstrual day. I think misunderstanding people on the net is only a tiny bit of the warring problem. If I were to put a lot of IchiOris and IchiRukis in a room together and try to interview everyone, I think that eventually something out of Jerry Springer would happen and the chairs would get broken.




As to Chapter 282, oh just GET ON WITH IT, Kubo.

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