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bleachnessKubo-sensei wanted his name removed as Executive Producer on the Hellverse DVD according to his message in the pamphlet included with the DVD. Translation by nacchan (credit was being given to Mel all over BA so I got it wrong at first, sorry) . I'm fairly shocked.
映画には｢製作総指揮｣として僕の名前がクレジットされていますか゛、
本当のことを言えば、この肩書はDVD化する際に外して欲しい、
というお願いをしていました。これは僕自身が本作に対して製作総指揮と
名乗れるほどに貢献できていない、と感じていた為です。
この思いは劇場公開時からあったのですが、編集部をはじめ、
映画の製作委員会側から説得に遭い、外す事はできませんでした
In this movie I was credited as "Executive Director"
However honestly speaking, for the DVD version I want that title to be removed
I already asked them to do so. This is because I feel I didn't participate enough in the production of this movie to warrant such a title.
I already have this feelings since the premier of the theatre version, however when I meet with the producer staff to persuade the movie was already in editing process so it can't be removed.
Holy shit, Sensei. This is a bit much.
Going so far as asking for his name to be removed from a project? A far cry from his Fade to Black public declarations where he gushed about "I made a movie" and went on about his discussions about dialogue with director Abe. Dare I guess the feedback and lack of repeat box office and unspectacular revenue versus what was put into the picture was really enough for Sensei to distance himself from this project?
I'm hearing at the moment that 2chan is asking "Is Sensei trying to get away?" and some are wondering why the movie was promoted so heavily as his (if you'll recall one of the major HV CMs began with his image drawing Ichigo--Kubo the superstar manga-ka!) and yet now Sensei claims not to have been involved much? The Japanese are saying that they won't watch the movie if Sensei wasn't involved in it, but that's funny--the numbers show that not that many of them watched it when it was in theatres. Sensei may have just damned DVD sales.
Nonetheless, what I've seen of the film (haven't even peeked at the Chinese raw yet) has me looking forward to watching it. I want my Ishida, Ishida, Ishida. I don't expect naked!Rukia to be much. I've seen stills of the Orihime hug and it wasn't what I thought it'd be. Fanarts exaggerate--but still, I hope the fights are good. The Ulquiorra sequence I saw in trailers was amazing. Worth the price of box office. Maybe the DVD *counts cash* If only all this 10th anniversary stuff wasn't already draining me. But I feel guilty about watching the movie subbed online so I'd better order it eventually.
IchiOri shippers will buy the movie at least. I did hear tell of one of them saying yesterday after watching the Chinese raw: "See what happens when you let Kubo have a say in his own movies, kiddies?"
Kubo karma strikes again, lol.
Well, I honestly don't believe that Sensei is distancing himself from the movie because of the content, IchiOri fanservice or anything like that. The movie got bad feedback from viewers who were polled the first day they saw it and it got lousy return boxoffice and apparently didn't do as well as expect in revenue for all the huge amounts of money that went into it (the incredible promotion--I remember Spacecat saying all he saw were CMs, the hiring of TM Revolution for the song must've cost plenty yen, the building of that huge skull and crossbones movie set, etc etc). I still refuse to call the movie a flop ( because the numbers I saw weren't anything like what we in the US call flops) but I do believe it was an investment disappointment.
My guess is that Sensei didn't want to be associated with what is known in Japan as a poor film, financially-speaking mostly but perhaps artistically as well.
If it's just financial stuff, it's very curious to me that Sensei, who seems to value his artistic cred above all, would ACTUALLY WANT HIS NAME REMOVED FROM A PROJECT. I think maybe something unspoken is going on here. I wonder what truly disappointed him. I haven't seen the movie myself yet so I can't judge. But the difference from the Fade to Black liner notes where he just GUSHED about his involvement and this fairly upfront statement about not wanting his NAME on a project in the DVD message for Hellverse is really shocking to me.
It's not IchiOri vs IchiRuki to me. Unless maybe Kubo wants to send that message--but I don't really believe that he has shipping at the forefront of his mind like a lot of us do. I honestly wonder what's up. I don't really believe HV is an IchiOri movie. It's an action movie to me--I read the summary--and it clearly paints IchiThing as a monster that needed to be controlled and Rukia was the one who inspired and helped Ichigo control his Hollow form in this movie. All good stuff by my accounts. From the stills I've seen of the IchiOri "hug"--it wasn't even a hug and there was no "smile" like reported. Ichigo's face--
. He looked like he was being attacked, and all Hime did was tug his shirt. His eyes were tiny-pupiled and he didn't look sexy there. Guys get big-pupiled when they're interested (note big-pupils and warm look like the close-up of Ichigo's sexy eyes in 460) and it was just a tug that was pretty IC for Orihime at the time (despite the "don't go"--which I didn't like for her--her not wanting Ichigo to go save their friends is a far cry from the Orihime who cheered Ichigo on to save Rukia in SS but it was IC, I must say post HM... and her worry). I really don't believe shipping is that big of a deal in this movie--I let you know more when I see it.
I want a movie FIVE. I've never been a big fan of predictable-villain-shallow-plot anime movies in general, but I like all things Bleach (ok, the Senna movie annoyed me) and THIS MOVIE I was looking forward to the most (one guess why? Ishidaaaaaaa). I hope the producers get the message as to what the audiences want (beyond just wanting Hitsugaya) and actually make a fifth movie that can bring in the $ and make Sensei proud. Against everything I feared, SP surprised the heck out of me and made this last anime filler actually interesting with its modsoul back story. A movie like that would be OK.
In other words, Studio Perriot and I can be together again. I've dug the ring out of the trash and put turned the photos around. Hellverse can't be as horrible as they say, right? So bad that Kubo wanted his name off it? More after I watch the sub.
映画には｢製作総指揮｣として僕の名前がクレジットされていますか゛、
本当のことを言えば、この肩書はDVD化する際に外して欲しい、
というお願いをしていました。これは僕自身が本作に対して製作総指揮と
名乗れるほどに貢献できていない、と感じていた為です。
この思いは劇場公開時からあったのですが、編集部をはじめ、
映画の製作委員会側から説得に遭い、外す事はできませんでした
In this movie I was credited as "Executive Director"
However honestly speaking, for the DVD version I want that title to be removed
I already asked them to do so. This is because I feel I didn't participate enough in the production of this movie to warrant such a title.
I already have this feelings since the premier of the theatre version, however when I meet with the producer staff to persuade the movie was already in editing process so it can't be removed.
Holy shit, Sensei. This is a bit much.
Going so far as asking for his name to be removed from a project? A far cry from his Fade to Black public declarations where he gushed about "I made a movie" and went on about his discussions about dialogue with director Abe. Dare I guess the feedback and lack of repeat box office and unspectacular revenue versus what was put into the picture was really enough for Sensei to distance himself from this project?I'm hearing at the moment that 2chan is asking "Is Sensei trying to get away?" and some are wondering why the movie was promoted so heavily as his (if you'll recall one of the major HV CMs began with his image drawing Ichigo--Kubo the superstar manga-ka!) and yet now Sensei claims not to have been involved much? The Japanese are saying that they won't watch the movie if Sensei wasn't involved in it, but that's funny--the numbers show that not that many of them watched it when it was in theatres. Sensei may have just damned DVD sales.
Nonetheless, what I've seen of the film (haven't even peeked at the Chinese raw yet) has me looking forward to watching it. I want my Ishida, Ishida, Ishida. I don't expect naked!Rukia to be much. I've seen stills of the Orihime hug and it wasn't what I thought it'd be. Fanarts exaggerate--but still, I hope the fights are good. The Ulquiorra sequence I saw in trailers was amazing. Worth the price of box office. Maybe the DVD *counts cash* If only all this 10th anniversary stuff wasn't already draining me. But I feel guilty about watching the movie subbed online so I'd better order it eventually.
IchiOri shippers will buy the movie at least. I did hear tell of one of them saying yesterday after watching the Chinese raw: "See what happens when you let Kubo have a say in his own movies, kiddies?"
Kubo karma strikes again, lol.
Well, I honestly don't believe that Sensei is distancing himself from the movie because of the content, IchiOri fanservice or anything like that. The movie got bad feedback from viewers who were polled the first day they saw it and it got lousy return boxoffice and apparently didn't do as well as expect in revenue for all the huge amounts of money that went into it (the incredible promotion--I remember Spacecat saying all he saw were CMs, the hiring of TM Revolution for the song must've cost plenty yen, the building of that huge skull and crossbones movie set, etc etc). I still refuse to call the movie a flop ( because the numbers I saw weren't anything like what we in the US call flops) but I do believe it was an investment disappointment.
My guess is that Sensei didn't want to be associated with what is known in Japan as a poor film, financially-speaking mostly but perhaps artistically as well.
If it's just financial stuff, it's very curious to me that Sensei, who seems to value his artistic cred above all, would ACTUALLY WANT HIS NAME REMOVED FROM A PROJECT. I think maybe something unspoken is going on here. I wonder what truly disappointed him. I haven't seen the movie myself yet so I can't judge. But the difference from the Fade to Black liner notes where he just GUSHED about his involvement and this fairly upfront statement about not wanting his NAME on a project in the DVD message for Hellverse is really shocking to me.
It's not IchiOri vs IchiRuki to me. Unless maybe Kubo wants to send that message--but I don't really believe that he has shipping at the forefront of his mind like a lot of us do. I honestly wonder what's up. I don't really believe HV is an IchiOri movie. It's an action movie to me--I read the summary--and it clearly paints IchiThing as a monster that needed to be controlled and Rukia was the one who inspired and helped Ichigo control his Hollow form in this movie. All good stuff by my accounts. From the stills I've seen of the IchiOri "hug"--it wasn't even a hug and there was no "smile" like reported. Ichigo's face--
. He looked like he was being attacked, and all Hime did was tug his shirt. His eyes were tiny-pupiled and he didn't look sexy there. Guys get big-pupiled when they're interested (note big-pupils and warm look like the close-up of Ichigo's sexy eyes in 460) and it was just a tug that was pretty IC for Orihime at the time (despite the "don't go"--which I didn't like for her--her not wanting Ichigo to go save their friends is a far cry from the Orihime who cheered Ichigo on to save Rukia in SS but it was IC, I must say post HM... and her worry). I really don't believe shipping is that big of a deal in this movie--I let you know more when I see it.I want a movie FIVE. I've never been a big fan of predictable-villain-shallow-plot anime movies in general, but I like all things Bleach (ok, the Senna movie annoyed me) and THIS MOVIE I was looking forward to the most (one guess why? Ishidaaaaaaa). I hope the producers get the message as to what the audiences want (beyond just wanting Hitsugaya) and actually make a fifth movie that can bring in the $ and make Sensei proud. Against everything I feared, SP surprised the heck out of me and made this last anime filler actually interesting with its modsoul back story. A movie like that would be OK.
In other words, Studio Perriot and I can be together again. I've dug the ring out of the trash and put turned the photos around. Hellverse can't be as horrible as they say, right? So bad that Kubo wanted his name off it? More after I watch the sub.
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Date: 2011-08-25 12:14 pm (UTC)I do admit to being a little surprised... since Pierrot seemed to be using his involvement as a selling point for the movie (and I guess that could be one reason why he felt the need to point out that he wasn't actually as involved in this as Pierrot made him out to be). But of course I can understand it.
What seems strange to me is that he decided to come out with this in the DVD BOOKLET, and what's more - he dedicated his whole message to making this clear - without even mentioning the good points of the movie, or hoping that all of the viewers will like it, or, you know, all that feel-good stuff you usually find in this kind of things.
I just think that something like, say, "Hey guys, this is one amazing movie! I hope you will enjoy it as much as I did - oh, and by the way, I'm not actually the executive producer - but I only noticed I was credited as such recently, and it was too late to take out my name. Still, no biggie. Have fun watching!" would have been a little more appropriate for this venue, no...?
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Date: 2011-08-25 12:50 pm (UTC)Hmm, weirder and weirder. I'm hearing from a blog now that his full dvd message has further complaints on it (don't know what they are yet) and that it's startled people (「右の師匠のMessageは、愚痴ばっかでびっくりした、映画のできに納得いかんかったんやな～って事がすごく伝わった。」 I'm really curious now. I don't have my copy so no scan. Also, no new color drawing for his DVD message--an old sketch of skull clad Ichigo we'd seen before and that says something to me. Then again, he drew TONS of new art for this movie when it came out. I never saw so many spreads in Jump. They were freaking gorgeous too. I think he burned himself out because we haven't seen as detailed spreads for the manga since.
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Date: 2011-08-25 11:07 pm (UTC)Reposted since I finally found that damn verb. XD右の師匠のMessageは、愚痴ばっかでびっくりした、映画のできに納得いかんかったんやな～って事がすごく伝わった。
"Shishou's message on the right side is nothing but complaints, I was surprised. It really gave off the feeling that he wasn't satisfied with the making of the movie."
(納得が行く = to understand and accept as valid (of a thought, action, etc.); to be satisfied with)
So, essentially, what Annie said... so weird.
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Date: 2011-08-25 01:28 pm (UTC)