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Happy New Year's everyone. It's the year of the Bunny Rabbit so maybe we'll get a nice Rukia spread from Sensei? I'm waiting for neighborhood firecrackers to scare the cats and browsing interesting stuffs over at the Bleach Movie 4 thread at BA--a few posts have been made recently about the dropping revenues of Hellverse and I've been concerned because I don't want a return to "Ichigo and the Shinigami" standards of old. The focus on the nakama in this movie is what got my interest. Today czeliate posted from 2ch ( here):

第一弾
1週目(5) 1.4億
2週目(圏外)
5週目 6.1億
6週目 6.3億

最終 6.6億

第二弾
1週目(4) 2.19億(3日間)
2週目(5) ※元日
3週目(7) 6.18億
4週目(10) 7.07億
5週目(12) 7.24億
6週目(19) 7.72億

第三弾
1週目 1.52億
2週目 2.73億(2週目のみ 1.21億 前週比 -20.4%)
3週目 4.06億(3週目のみ 1.33億 前週比 +10.0%)
4週目 5.62億(4週目のみ 1.56億 前週比 +17.2%)


第四弾
1週目 1.96億
2週目 3.39億(2週目のみ 1.43億 前週比 -27.1%)
3週目 4.12億(3週目のみ 0.71億 前週比 -50.1%)
4週目 4.68億(4週目のみ 0.56億 前週比 -21.1%)
2006/12/16 6.2億 231scr「MEMORIES OF NOBODY」
2007/12/22 7.6億 224scr「The DiamondDust Rebellion/もう一つの氷輪丸」
2008/12/13 7.3億 239scr「Fade to Black 君の名を呼ぶ」
note:--
億: 100 million
第一弾: MON
第二弾: DDR
第三弾: FTB
第四弾: HELL ARC
1週目: 1st week
2週目: 2nd week
3週目: 3rd week
4週目: 4th week
5週目: 5th week
6週目: 6th week


so the 4th movie has a good start but after 4th week,it hasn't even reach ¥0.5 billion.. while DDR has over 0.7 billion and FTB has 0.562 billion during the 4th week =.=, i'm starting to think that it won't reach 1 billion yen or surpass the DDR/FTB movie...which is sad...since this movie was supposed to be the best among the previous movie


Also, a BA member named ciaxsjes saw the movie in Japan and is posting a very detailed play by play summary here. Ciaxsjes says the movie was excellent, better than the other three, and I want to see it even more than ever now after reading the first installment of summary. My guess is that DDR and FTB got more repeat business than this movie because of the fervor of their specific fandoms (Hitsugaya, IchiRuki) and not that this movie is doing worse because it's in any way a lesser movie or because the Shinigami aren't featured or because the nakama are (or ORIHIME is). I do hope that producers of future movies take into consideration the success of FTB and the Kubo factor in the promotion of Hellverse--people want Kubo's involvement in these movies; they want a feeling close to the original manga. The appeal of this movie for me was its closeness to canon (Ichigo's transformation) as well as the nakama, but I suspect its the former factor that matters to most people.

Date: 2011-01-01 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nivek01.livejournal.com
I'd read about this on the BA forums as well, and was honestly shocked. I've seen MoN and FtB, and though the latter was okay because of the IchiRuki implications, the first wasn't that enjoyable, and I still haven't watched DDR.

Also, I'm trying REALLY hard not to spoil the movie for myself, but from what I've heard and the 1:40 minute trailer I've watched 5 times, it looks really good. Not just because we finally get more on Hell, but also because it sticks to the shounen format-The good guys are always a few steps away from losing and dying horrible deaths, the bad guys are practically unstoppable, and there's actual, awesomely drawn fighting (and apparently, even a PLOT TWIST! [B]Gasp![/B] .

Although it sounds clichéd, it would probably be the first of the four (again, I'm assuming here with DDR) to not drag. I watched FtB for the story, not the fighting. I'm planning on watching Hellverse for both.

And apparently, where FtB was a huge Ichi--->Ruki movie, this is supposed to be the other way around, with a lot of Ruki--->Ichi. I don't see why people would go to see FtB for the IchiRuki and not this one for practically the same thing. Then again, I'm not the Japanese fanbase.

Date: 2011-01-01 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nivek01.livejournal.com
First Post, BTW.

(I've always wanted to do that). :)

Date: 2011-01-01 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] escarboucle.livejournal.com
Japaneses fans consider Ruki --> Ichi as obvious already in the manga. One of my friend told me "I wanted Ichi --> Ruki", even though she still enjoyed the movie, being a super Rukia fan.

Date: 2011-01-01 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
lol, it's always about who the boy wants, right?
Ichigo is much more focused and emotionally dependant on Rukia, in my opinion, than the other way round.
Perhaps it's because the fans (mainly girls) identify with Rukia, so they want to see Ichi --> Rukia

Date: 2011-01-01 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If sales of merchandise and popularity polls didn't already make it obvious to Kubo-Pierrot-SJ what we want to watch, this should send a pretty clear message.

The sooner they get the hint that the core principles/characters of Bleach are what make it sell well, the better off we'll all be. I understand that there's some characters and situations that Kubo wants to have in the story, but that doesn't mean we have to like it or buy it. To make things more clear: I think we're all a little tired of 'KUROSAKI-KUN', endless power ups/Namek, and rescue arcs.

If this ultimately ends up skewing the ending of the story somewhat from its original configuration it's probably better for it.

Date: 2011-01-01 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetsword.livejournal.com
I wish I could say I was shocked.

Date: 2011-01-01 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetsword.livejournal.com
The really sucky part is that from week one to week two it had a twenty-seven percent drop, then from week two to week three it had a fifty percent drop in box office yields. That's never good. That usually means the movie blew, or people saw it, didn't like it, and told their friends not to go. Negative word of mouth.

Wow. . .

Date: 2011-01-01 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kawaii22.livejournal.com
From the trailers and information that we have received from this movie I thought this movie would be the highest grossing of the 4. I thought Japanese fans have been waiting for a nakama movie, but I guess they just want Ichigo --> Rukia X3

I hope that at least dvd sales do well for sensei and the team.

Date: 2011-01-02 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ann89103.livejournal.com
I have little interest in seeing the 4th movie, because I actually prefer storylines with a heavier dose of the shinigami characters. The usual Ichigo fights, suffers a setback, is inspired by a story told by the new movie character, has to rally to protect his friends and/or family, and finally powers up another level to defeat the villain - it's gotten rather stale.

Now, if this was a story about the nakama - if it had more insight into characters like Ishida, Renji and Chad rather than just fights against new foes - I might be more enthused.

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