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I'm surprised no one's made a post yet. I've had a lot of reactions, outraged and delighted, in the past couple weeks, but from the streaming raws this morning I'm just weary and disappointed once and for all.  Ulquiorra's transformations were what I was looking forward to for a whole year and they're over, and while we have Daisuke Namikawa reciting the Lust poem in this week's preview (sexy, sexy--I guess that clarifies that he was the speaker of his own volume poem for any hold-outs who were still arguing to the contrary), I don't think I can watch next week's episode. My Ishida wasn't probably mutilated, you see. *cries*  Studio Perriot did get his hand dirty, though. A Quincy with a dirty hand is going to look so noble in his lunge to catch a monster-reiatsu-blown Orihime and in stopping that beast with his UNdirty hand while making a quiet plea for his nakama's humanity.



Eh, I'm not going to get into the plot variations. Loly was OOC and this week's episode took perilous gambles with the manga sequence of events. Animation has been spotty throughout, ranging as usual in Bleach from bad to great, but the Ulquiorra bits have been good for the most part so as an Ulquiorra fan I've been about mostly happy. As a hardcore Ishida fan, I'm a very unhappy camper this morning.

Your opinions?
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Date: 2010-05-18 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iselinka.livejournal.com
What.the.hell.

I don't believe it! No,this is just... arghh!
The fact that he's lost his arm was crucial! You DON'T replace that with a DIRTY HAND...!

And what about stabbing him with Zangetsu? Are they going to change that to? A scratch maybe? :/

Fail.

Date: 2010-10-29 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marheavenangel.livejournal.com
Yeah, I mean if they HAD to edit it or something....couldn't they at least make it look I dunno? scraped up? bleeding?

As much as I don't want Ishida to get hurt ;_; can't we be a LITTLE more closer to manga material?

Date: 2010-05-18 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papanchi.livejournal.com
I just watched this episode and.. what I found odd was how come they let Ulquiorra's arm be removed and Ishida's hand not. I mean, what's the point? if they had to censor it so bad, at least show some blood! The SFX after Ulquiorra grabbed his hand couldn't just make his hand dirty.. -.-

I also thought it was one of the best episodes so far generally speaking.

Also, Ulquiorra kept tail-whipping Ishida! What are you, Ulquiorra? A Pokemon?

Oh, and, I think it's because of the crappy quality, but I thought Orihime said "Ishidaa" only and Ishida said "Inoue-sama". Weiird.

Though, I did like the way Ishida saved Orihime from the face-plant bomb.

Date: 2010-05-18 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enisy.livejournal.com
I think his hand is supposed to be burned or something...? Still disappointing, though. :(

I liked the episode, even though my heart kinda broke for Ulquiorra, Orihime and Ishida all over again. I thought the fights were nicely animated.

Aside from that -- and despite their various missteps over the latest episodes -- many thanks to Studio Pierrot for Omae no subete wo hossuru. Did not see that coming. ♥
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Date: 2010-05-19 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_penguins_/
I think his hand is supposed to be burned or something...?

that or ... chapped? he needs some lotion, stat.

WILL HIS PAIN- ER, UNCOMFORTABLENESS EVER END??

Date: 2010-05-18 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I see a hand in there...wut happened to my hardcore Bleach??? blood was one of my favorite characters!! lol

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Date: 2010-05-18 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Okay, scratch the part about the low quality.

What did Ulquiorra do anyway? Burn Ishida's sleeve with Cero Oscuras? O_O

Or did his bone break or something? Oh, well. I'll just wait for Dattebayo like a good girl.

Date: 2010-05-18 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcadiasilver.livejournal.com
Studio Peirrot has been censoring a lot of stuff lately. I'm not surprised that they chose such a...mild editing option, but I am surprised that they kept Ulquiorra's arm being torn off. I suppose its to keep focus on how brutal and animalistic Ichithing is. I dunno, its early, I need coffee.

Date: 2010-05-18 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peca-06.livejournal.com
I guess they couldn't edit the tearing off Ulqui's limb, because they wouldn't be able to make the scene when Ulqui regenerates it and that would've mean to completely change the plot and cut off a lot of the original manga?. If they could they would make IchiThing and Ulqui just holds hands into the sunset instead >:((.
*SIGH* I am getting really sick of their censoring liberties lately. The more serious and war-like Bleach gets, the more censoring they do and it is getting ridiculous, that way they are even making the plot suffer.
I'm just waiting for all of them to just kiss and make up with a "just kidding you guys", since it is turning into a bit of a joke. I haven't even seen the episode yet, but judging by previous episodes and the picture of Ishida, they are just screwing it up.

Date: 2010-05-18 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jade.livejournal.com
There's something strange in this ep. Have you heard the heartbeat from Ichigo? Where did that sound come from? Especically when Ulqui did blow that heart into ash with Cero Oscuras.

No blood or black blood like muddy water made the animation look dirty.

Ulqui had to go such trouble to make Ishida's hand dirty?

But Ulqui panting in hard breath and reciting LUST POEM is full of LOVE.

Date: 2010-05-18 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenai.livejournal.com
SKDJFLKJELKJLKWJFW

Okay you know, I've given up on the Bleach filler a long time ago but this is just ridiculously stupid.

Orihime starts chanting "What do I do? What do I do?" right after this and now I'm gonna be thinking, "Get a wet towel, clean off his hand and shut the fuck up."

Bleach's timespot suuuucks.

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Date: 2010-05-18 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rusky-boz.livejournal.com
Glorious censorship, what have you done?...

we have Daisuke Namikawa reciting the Lust poem in this week's preview


FFFFFF.. THIS IS ENOUGH TO SATISFY ME. *goes to watch the episode* <33333333

Date: 2010-05-18 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] espadadina.livejournal.com
T___T All good scneses are deleted od censored.... first Ulquiorra's painful look when Lolly's bullied Hime... and... now.. ISHIDA STILL HAVE HIS HAND!! GRAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH....

But positeve things.... Ulquiorra's sexy transform *still drooling* and his poem....
I don't know do I want see hand reaching scene at all.... T___T

Animators must hate UlquiHime....*sigh*

Date: 2010-05-19 02:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They don't like Ichihime either apparently....LOL...

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Date: 2010-05-18 02:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] incandescens
I think it is an utterly stupid choice on the part of the animators, and I hope that it will come back to bite them later should Ishida's missing hand turn out to be a Plot Point in the manga. That'll show them.

Date: 2010-05-18 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinodeh.livejournal.com
Same here.

I hope that quite few things that they borked will be plot points or heavily referenced later in the story.

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Date: 2010-05-18 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrew-jp.livejournal.com
Disappointed that one of you're boyfriends wasn't dismembered? You're one sick puppy, Deb. :p

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Date: 2010-05-18 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluishorbs.livejournal.com
Whyyyyyy censor this as well, urgh. First Matsumoto, now Ishida. :(

Date: 2010-05-18 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peca-06.livejournal.com
THEY COULD'VE AT LEAST PUT SOME BLOOD ON THE ARM AND HAND, TO INDICATE HIS AT LEAST BADLY INJURED :((. Blah! I knew that they were going to downplay and white wash some things (I was outraged when they turn blood spills into just spit. Bloody Ichigo looked great in the SS arc and showcased his sacrifice), but this is really going to be so boring and not all that epic for Ishida T_______T.
I'm sure IchiThing is going to just sit down and play chess with Ulquiorra for a really shameful "check-mate", instead of blowing him to pieces and then drink some Earl Grey tea afterwards while he vaporizes in the air and have a jolly good time >:(.
Last week I was a bit disappointed to see an Orihime rolling on the floor Military style, promptly getting up and ran towards Ichigo, when Ishida falls flat on his face and now... this *sigh*.
NOBODY BLEEDS ANYMORE... JUST GETS DIRTIED UP A BIT.
Ulqui has looked good though XD, I give them that one.

Date: 2010-05-18 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinodeh.livejournal.com
Agreed on everything, though maybe Tatsuki teached Orihime some military style rolling along with karate. ;)

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Date: 2010-05-18 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karkashan.livejournal.com
Wait, how was Loly OOC? She seemed just like the manga version.

I don't get it.

Date: 2010-05-18 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleepwalkerrrr.livejournal.com
There wasn't that "I owe you" from Loli to Inoue in manga, as well as there weren't Inoue healing Yammilated Loli etc. Inoue x Loli friendship stuff. She just pulled her dagger, released it and died in a matter of seconds.

Date: 2010-05-18 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yet-adored.livejournal.com
Huh.

I can't wait to see Hitsugaya & co. give Momo a heartfelt slap on the back.

Date: 2010-05-18 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinodeh.livejournal.com
Thanks for the laugh. It's the only thing that helps in the face of this travesty.

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Ishida got a dirty hand...

Date: 2010-05-18 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-kalaka.livejournal.com
WTFFFFFFFFFFF**CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*kicks anime bleach*

Date: 2010-05-18 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candy-003.livejournal.com
I haven't watched the new episode yet, but last weeks episode was so good. Ulquiorra was so sexy, I couldn't ask for anything more... ♥

Date: 2010-05-18 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladypurpleheart.livejournal.com
I would have LOVED this episode if I hadn't known what really happend. I don't really get how they can show a huge hole through the main protagonist’s chest and yet can't show one of his nakama's hand cut off. Lack of blood I can understand and am used too but not something which actually makes an impact on a scene's drama and character's emotions. I'll give them this though- the snap after the fade to black was awesome.

I feel mixed about this whole battle so far. I loved seeing Renji and Sado fighting together and I enjoyed the filler scene but something about it made it feel really detached. Normally in-canon filler is undetectable or close enough that even hard-core Bleach fans sometimes confuse filler momements for actually happening yet for some reason i didn't feel that with the Renji/Sado fight. I enjoyed the extended Ishida/Yammi fight and felt that it flowed pretty well but disliked Rukia needing her Nakama's help. The Ichigo/Ulquiorra part of the fight has so far been pretty awesome and even if the emotion was not as clear in the anime's art as it was in the manga's it remained thrilling (probably thanks to the great music choices). Orihime's and Ishida's parts weren't handled as well as they should have- ok some Ishida moments have down right sucked- but their seiyuu's did a great job and whenever they have been shown in the same scene you can feel an amazing chemistry between them (even more than the manga).

I guess as long as I don’t think too much about what happened in the manga the fight is exciting and really enjoyable but when i start to do a page by page comparison I feel disappointed. I had long ago decided to let anime be anime and manga be manga and accept each for what they were and I suppose I should stick that instead of complaining but… I just wouldn’t be a fangirl if I did that ;)

Date: 2010-05-18 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adam-epp.livejournal.com
Never liked the anime from the beginning...and I don't think I even like looking at screencaps from the animated adaption now. Yikes.

Date: 2010-05-18 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r0ck3tsci3ntist.livejournal.com
I did sort of like the fact that the beating Ishi took seemed to distract Orihime from her Ichigo-centric freak out. I got more of an impression that she was calling out to Ichi on behalf of Uuryu rather than herself. It made her "what am I going to do?" into a "What am I going to do to save Ishida-kun?" At least that's the way it seemed to me.

The fight was cool but I want to see it in HQ because the vocals were out of sync in LQ and it really threw the timing off.

Date: 2010-05-18 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lorkylork.livejournal.com
I am beyond furious...that hand had to go...and ichithing rising after seeing Ishida and Orihime? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? Speechless....

So when Ichigo tells Rukia that he left Inoue healing Ishida up on the dome, he may probably mean her wiping his hand with a wet cloth to remove the dirt...

They had better not mess up with Soi-fon's hand...seriously...we want to see the degenration...not her hand turning into ash...

Oh gosh am so annoyed...but I did love the preview and the encyclopedia...I miss Gin in the anime...

Date: 2010-05-18 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubaki99.livejournal.com
There's still Ishida's impaling though...

*Sighs* Does anybody know if the Bleach DVD's have the uncensored version or something? I wish they move the anime schedule back when they first started...just who the hell was the genius who decided that in the first place? >:(

I will laugh my ass up is it turn out that Ishida's missing hand turns out to be important to the plot like Incandescens said.



Date: 2010-05-18 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loly-ren.livejournal.com
I actually quite like the arc so far - probably because I didn't have very high expectations for it =/. I didn't think that Uryu would lose his arm.

I loved that they included the poem - I didn't expect that =D

Date: 2010-05-18 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluejesus.livejournal.com
Haven't seen the whole episode but.

Ulquiorra saying "segunda etapa" is so--

--ubelieveably---

---sexy.

Date: 2010-05-18 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasasu.livejournal.com
...I guess I should go catch up with the anime. But...what? How can you not have Ishida join the one-arm club?
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