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Err, since no one else's posted - 381 spoilers are up over here at BA.


Yeah, I was actually expecting the captains to get Ichigo as far away from the fighting as possible at the moment - he's in no shape to take on Aizen. And how is he supposed to keep from looking at Aizen's shikai?

Looks like Byakuya has some doubts, at least.

Oh well. Looking forward to the Mayuri-Byakuya interaction, and more Unohana :), though I'd really hoped we'd see her fighting soon.
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Date: 2009-11-04 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enisy.livejournal.com
Bored now.

The pace slows down yet again, Yammy becomes even more of a joke (okay, don't much mind that one), and the Captains make good of Ichigo's present immunity to Aizen's shikai by... bringing him in plain view of that shikai. Brilliant.

Date: 2009-11-04 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khyata.livejournal.com
Seems like a setup for Ichigo to get trashed royally IMO. He is in no shape to fight, let alone face Aizen the Big Bad. The fact that he's all chest thumpingly declaring "rah rah I'll fight Aizen", is nothing but a classic Kubo fakeout to show how badly and viscerally he'll be owned and how far he has to go in terms of power and training.

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Date: 2009-11-04 09:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyanglow
This. All of it.

Date: 2009-11-04 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hallowd.livejournal.com
This will be either fabulous or disastrous. Since it's obviously a transition chapter, I'm withholding judgement at least until the scanlation shows up.

Date: 2009-11-04 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amciel.livejournal.com
Hm. They seem to have faith in the Ichi!Beast which Mayuri no doubt knows of considering he's "bugged" Ishida. But none of them know he can't call it up now, right? And what are they going to do, take out Ichigo's eyes?

...


*Given the focus on his eyes from both Orihime and Rukia, I now ponder this crack theory with some credulity.*

Date: 2009-11-04 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mezzo-marinaio.livejournal.com
If Byakuya takes out one/both of his eyes surrounded by cherry blossoms I'm calling CLAMP canon couple.

I just am.

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Date: 2009-11-04 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_debbiechan_/


Woke up late! Thanks for posting spoilers! No Ishida and Orihime (yet) *cries*

wrote at BA:

Thanks Zan and Spacey!

Transition chapter and the devils DID have a reason for scooting Ichigo back to the battle--because they think he can win. LOL, this is just setting him up for a massive failure. Ichigo has to go insane and be so pwned by Aizen somehow because Aizen still has to lead us into another arc where he continues his ebil.

Maybe Unohana will adjust/fix/heal Ichigo's garments before he goes into battle. Boy can't fight all naked like that!
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Date: 2009-11-04 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mezzo-marinaio.livejournal.com
...I'd find Unohana to be far more useful if she stripped away Aizen's garments than if she fixed Ichigo's.

Just sayin'.

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Date: 2009-11-04 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pogo2468.livejournal.com
Epic fail for Ichigo commencing ...

LOL, didn't the captains just see Ichigo get pwned by Yammy? And they think he can take on Aizen, who is much stronger? Yup, this is all setting up for Ichigo's failure.

Date: 2009-11-04 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malva-lv.livejournal.com
Ichigo can defeat Aizen? Lol yeahright. Back in SS on that final showdown on the hill Aizen was owning everyone left, right and center without even using his hypnosis ability, throwing high grade kidou spells around and stopping bankai with his bare hands. And we've NEVER seen the man get serious yet. With that difference in level and control, it shouldn't mean a thing that Ichigo hasn't seen Aizen's shikai; he should still get royally pwn'd.

What are the captains thinking? It almost feels like Ichigo is being used as cannon fodder. With Soul Society's lack of scruples concerning ethics, I wouldn't be surprised if they would be ruthlessly pragmatic enough to just use Ichigo to observe and analyze what chances someone with his abilities (IchiThing) who hasn't been affected by Aizen's shikai has. Though I don't really want to think that Unohana (<3) would go along with that.

Kubo has deprived me of my ship-source of angst - Ulquihime. He could have at least given me something for my ship-source of fluff - Ishihime. But still no Ishida and Orihime. *sad monkey* c;_;c

Date: 2009-11-04 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina.livejournal.com
My initial reaction: OH HORSESHIT.

Date: 2009-11-04 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spartydragon.livejournal.com
Not gonna pass a final judgment until I see the chapter, but I'm getting two possible outcomes of this:

They're ALL under Aizen's control, and Aizen has requested the presence of the strawberry for whatever reason.

They're using Ichigo as bait. For Isshin. BD

Date: 2009-11-04 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nehalenia.livejournal.com
Ooh, hadn't thought of either of those. Interesting! Especially since if they're using Ichigo to draw out Isshin, they must know their relationship -- which Byakuya obviously didn't back in SS. Urahara could have told them, but I'm not sure he'd have done that.

Oh well, yet another week of waiting to see what happens.

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steampunk westerns....

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Re: steampunk westerns....

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Date: 2009-11-04 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lennan.livejournal.com
I only read the English stuff as opposed to parsing the Japanese, but my reaction is:

LOL, total upcoming fail, I see. Just because Ichigo's the only shinigami that hasn't seen the shikai they think he has a chance? LMAO.

No really. Who the hell are they kidding? XD

Date: 2009-11-04 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nehalenia.livejournal.com
It sounds pretty stupid of them, doesn't it? Not to mention there's also Gin and Tousen to deal with. And the captains in HM shouldn't know about the Vizards joining in.

There is about to be some major, MAJOR fail (which I dread seeing, really) or something's going to happen before Ichigo starts trying to fight.

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Date: 2009-11-04 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nehalenia.livejournal.com
No Ishida. And for his birthday, even. :( Well, at least it looks like we *might* be staying in HM.

C'mon, Kubo! When we left the dome in spring and I said 'Great, now we won't see Ishida till Christmas!' I was trying to be overly pessimistic. Looks like I might not have been pessimistic enough. :/

Date: 2009-11-04 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenai.livejournal.com
This is SO INCREDIBLY STUPID of the captains that I'm assuming they have ulterior motives that they are trying to fulfill. Just, this can't actually be what they're planning on doing.

Because seriously, this page:
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/174/14/

That was one of the most horrifying, and in retrospect, hilarious pages in Bleach. That was without Ichigo seeing Aizen's shikai, and you know what, Ichigo is probably about that level of power right now. Forget illusions - even without it, Aizen is excellent at kidou and swordplay, undoubtedly stronger than Ichigo. I mean, he was only a shinigami for 100 years+.

No, this is a set-up for something. I refuse to believe until proven wrong that this isn't a very elaborate plan on Urahara/the captains' part. Because after all, the only one truly suited to fighting Aizen and his Machiavellian brain is *Urahara*.

In other new, I'm considering removing sole responsibility for Ichigo's hero complex from him. He's still at fault, but well, when there are ADULT CAPTAINS PILE-DRIVING IT DOWN YOUR THROAT THAT YOU ARE JESUS, I guess you don't have a whole lot of choice.

Date: 2009-11-04 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lennan.livejournal.com
Truly. And you know what, I've just gotten through half of the Japanese spoilers...and what Ichigo's been saying really points to the fact that he doesn't know whether he saw that shikai...regardless of what he's saying in these spoilers. How he explains his fight with Aizen...yeah, I'm pretty sure he saw that shikai without realizing it, because yeah. He doesn't seem too aware of how the hell Aizen could fight like this. Also. I think some people didn't tell him that you don't need to call out the shikai to trigger it, especially if you're super strong like Aizen. And that specifically Aizen's shikai is both activate and deactivated by the same command "kudakero", so conceivable the moment he breaks his illusion he could just be summoning another one anyway. I can't imagine that Kubo would overlook that since he was so damn specific in making sure Aizen mentioned that to Unohana. I mean, just Unohana's words, "don't see Aizen's shikai at all costs" (roughly paraphrased) is logically impossible. The whole point of Aizen's shikai is that it's completely unavoidable unless you're blind like Tousen.

Then the Mayuri and Byakuya exchange in which Byakuya says that Mayuri believes in Ichigo's win...and Mayuri says that Byakuya is saying words not like himself.... I'm really torn between are the Captains truly using him (which I can believe and can swallow) or...are they all so helpless and stupid that have to rely on someone like Ichigo?? At this point, if this isn't a set up on the part of Urahara and the Captains then I'll be flabbergasted. Truly.

However, it's nice to know that apparently Nii-sama can intimidate Mayuri into spilling why he's staying with little more than pressured questioning and a glance. XD I love Nii-sama.

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Date: 2009-11-04 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secila80.livejournal.com
Oh you have got to be kidding me. They actually were planning on Ichigo fighting Aizen? This was their uber-genius plan?!! *facepalms*

Two things now make sense to me:
(1) How all the captains showed up in FKK and were like, “uhhh, what do we do now? Sure we’re here ready to fight, but Aizen’s ability makes things kind of complicated” -> cue Yammaji firing his giant fire cloud prison thingy allowing for more time to THINK about how to approach a battle that they have know was coming for MONTHS.
(2) Four captains, a vice captain, and an extra healer invading HM, putting themselves at a serious disadvantage, and cutting SS forces by about half in order to save a small number of – in their eyes – rebel/traitors.

Oh, yes, it all makes sense now – SS is full of idiots. They were depending on Ichigo to be in FKK to fight Aizen, so when their “secret weapon” ran away to HM they immediately trailed along after him. Bayakuya was no doubt relieved to have the excuse to go after Rukia, but the others . . . jeepers creepers! No wonder Kenpachi was like, “get the Hell back to FKK, stupid”. Ugh, Aizen being an evil genius is completely wasted on these people. Elmo with a high school diploma could probably convince them the chicken dance was as defensive maneuver.

Urahara, on the other hand, probably knew about SS’s plan and sent Ichigo to HM to try to prevent exactly this – impending epic Ichigo failage – so sad so inevitable. D:

BTW – I’m loving that theory up above about Ichigo just being Isshin bait – it is making me feel better about SS’s stupidity. *begins humming a happy tune*

Date: 2009-11-05 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biodamper.livejournal.com
Yes, SS is full of idiots...
I mean, seriously, half of the captains have some severe mental issues/disorders, should they really charge of keeping their world and ours safe? D:

Date: 2009-11-04 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] femmelujah.livejournal.com
I WANT QUINCY PAPA AND ICHIDAD TO SHOW UP DAMMIT.

Date: 2009-11-04 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wdboldstar.livejournal.com
If there's anything we've learned, it's that Soul Society can be bullheadedly stupid when it wants to be. I wouldn't be surprised if this is another instance of that. Of course, it IS Captain Mom, who does seem slightly wiser than the norm, but then again, that could be the fannishness talking.

I do like the idea of this being a ploy to draw out Isshin though. At the least, I trust that Isshin will not let Ichigo just up and lay Aizen flat without some SERIOUS consequences.

Date: 2009-11-04 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wdboldstar.livejournal.com
Er, by that second Isshin, I mean Kubo! Stayed up too late last night playing Dragon Age. :)

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Date: 2009-11-04 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annie-08.livejournal.com
Love the wank more than a chapter so far lol Bleach spoilers never fail to amuse me.

I think panels on the last few pages should give us clearer sight what these captains relly are thinking. Sometimes words don't mean as much as expressions.

Date: 2009-11-04 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddychan.livejournal.com
Bye Ichigo. You're going to get pwned again.

Bye SS captains in FKT; Aizen has you nao.

Kenpachi chopping up Yammzilla? Okkkkk...

I think Mayuri knows about Ichigo; he does have a bug on his pet Ishida after all....and speaking of:

I"m starting to seriously think something's wrong up on the dome.

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Date: 2009-11-04 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] defectivequeen.livejournal.com
I'm looking foward to see Ichigo get pwned like no one in the history of manga ever was. Aizen is so awesome I can't help but root for him, instead to cheer for the hero XD.

Go Unohana! Go heal Hiyori! Yayayayaya!

And I want to see IshiHime interaction too! *pout*

Date: 2009-11-04 09:35 pm (UTC)
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I smell a huge plot twist, incoming. Otherwise Ichigo's about to die AGAIN.

Date: 2009-11-04 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nehalenia.livejournal.com
Is that what that odd burning smell was? ;)

BTW, my latest favorite Crack!Theory is that Quincies are immune to hypnosis.

BLINDFOLDED ICHIGO: WAIT! WHUT? WHERE IS HE?

IRRITATED ISHIDA: RIGHT WHERE I SAID HE WAS! BEHIND YOU AT 12 O'CLOCK! YOU DO KNOW HOW TO READ A CLOCK, RIGHT, KUROSAKI?

ICHIGO: SHUT UP! OWW!

Date: 2009-11-04 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athena799.livejournal.com
Did anyone else see the theory up on BA awhile ago that the Hougyoku is inside of Ichigo? Like, when Ulqi stabbed him in the neck forever ago he might have deposited it, since the reiastu was so intense that Orihime had trouble healing around it?

If that theory turns out to be true then not only is Ichigo set up for major failure in FKK but SS might be playing right into Aizen's hands by sending him and the Hougyoku to where they need it.

Also, doesn't it require a ton of spiritual energy to work? Isn't that why they're in FKK, because Aizen's going to use that energy to make the key? And, correct me if I'm wrong, won't a ton of captains and other Shinigami work just as well as a few dozen low grade psychics to make that happen?

Date: 2009-11-04 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddychan.livejournal.com
If that's the case, then SS deserves to get pwned.

BUt that there has to be some kind of twist though; otherwise, SS just basically set up Ichigo to die and signed its own death warrant against Aizen.

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Date: 2009-11-04 11:12 pm (UTC)
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seen at BA (by pp3524)

Image

Date: 2009-11-04 11:57 pm (UTC)

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Let the spice flow, my friends: It's time for the Special Guildenstern Chapter Spoilers Poetry WHARRGARBL Marathon! Special difficulty level for today's edition is either a haiku in the style of Byakuya, or a limerick with a Dragonball Z reference in honor of the idea of Ichigo taking on Aizen. Bonus epic will be awarded for any alteration of either John Milton or Samuel Taylor Coleridge. SHOW ME YOUR MOVES.


The Captains came up with a plan
"Who can beat him? Ichigo can"
Simply plot feint
Or mass Aizen taint?
En masse we roll eyes and 'Oh maaaaaaan'

"Get back to KT!"they said
To put the HM arc to bed
Upon plot we nail
Fail upon fail
'Are we still on Namek?' instead

If plot exposition we lack
Remember to always think back
To chapters before
Where instead we scored
Several panels of Yammy's wide crack





SPECIAL NII-SAMA HAIKU EDITION


Kurosaki Ichigo
A study of my deepest
Skepticism


Zaraki Kenpachi
You should definitely learn
Your place

Brother complex
Send sister's boyfriend into
Certain death
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Seriously, Guildy, I need to collect all these poems into a separate post or at least give them their own tag or ... something. I know! Let's put on a little literary quarterly!

This is my fave:

Brother complex
Send sister's boyfriend into
Certain death


I'm kinda brain dead at the moment due to heavy reading (Naruto Forums) and incapable of writing poetry. A few recitations of the alphabet backwards and some electroshock therapy and I'll check back in with you, 'k?

Date: 2009-11-05 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xilvrin.livejournal.com
Gotta agree with Byakuya this chapter... sending a damaged Ichigo into battle and telling him he's the big hope to defeat Aizen is a fail plan. *hangs head in shame with Bya*

Date: 2009-11-05 12:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ichigo hasn't seen Aizen's shikai so they're sending him to fight Aizen who will undoubtedly release his shikai.

LOL, ummm, Captains, Ichigo cannot pwn and be crazy awesome without having to see.

Only Tophgod is capable of such things and Ichigo is no Toph.

Date: 2009-11-05 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spartydragon.livejournal.com
Aizen'd never know what hit him if Toph decided to play.

Date: 2009-11-05 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biodamper.livejournal.com
This chapter had a pretty bad/depressing feel to it...i mean, first we have ichigo being dragged off to the real world and being told that he's soul society's only hope just after he finds out his hollow powers are kinda broken.
Also, there's the conversation between byakuya and mayuri. Mayuri says ichigo has no chance of winning.

i can't wait for the upcoming chapters! i really sense a plot twist approching... :D

Date: 2009-11-05 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddychan.livejournal.com
I'm sure that they're jumping for joy over Aizen winning over at BA
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