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Date: 2009-09-17 01:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-17 01:38 pm (UTC)Still don't think Stark is dead yet. But I do think he WILL die.
Shunsui is amazing. So glad to finally get to see more of him.
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Date: 2009-09-17 01:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-17 01:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-17 01:49 pm (UTC)Shunsui's sword is creeping me out. Also, have we seen Ukitake since he was impaled by the kid arrancar?
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Date: 2009-09-17 03:09 pm (UTC)What a cool idea! ^^
But naaah, I think he wears it because he think it's pretty. And that real men wear pink <3
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Date: 2009-09-17 02:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-17 03:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-17 02:32 pm (UTC)I like that Love seems to recognize Shunsui's ability, it makes me wonder if they ever fought before, maybe just for training.
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Date: 2009-09-17 05:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-09-17 02:33 pm (UTC)Shunsui's Burst-Of-Spring haori makes a lot of sense now... Increase attack AND decrease the places where Irooni could backfire on him.
Haves yourself some internets Kubo-Sama!
Now i can't wait till the next chapter...
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Date: 2009-09-17 03:24 pm (UTC)so much Shunsui~ one of the panels I loved the most was the one where we can see his reflection in Katen x3
I dont think the fight is quite over yet either and I love that Shuns ability is a risky one to himself as well, dont quite know why
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Date: 2009-09-17 03:38 pm (UTC)That is all.
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Date: 2009-09-17 07:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-09-17 03:43 pm (UTC)I think this chapter is deliciously revealing about both Shusui and Stark. It's also really melancholy, which is an emotion I don't usually feel about Shunsui.
Shunsui doesn't show his bankai because it can be used against him in certain circumstances. He's got to take a lot of personal risk to use it.
Stark really was the loneliest hollow in Hueco Mundo, wasn't he? His power destroyed his friends? That's rough. Joining others as strong as himself may have been his only relief from a lonely existence.
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Date: 2009-09-17 04:32 pm (UTC)Agreed! I was feeling that vibe as well.
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Date: 2009-09-17 03:46 pm (UTC)I just love Shunsui and Stark, every chapter with them interacting is wonderful.
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Date: 2009-09-17 04:07 pm (UTC)1) the chapter title page was amazing. and terrifying.
2) Shunsui rising out of the black was also terrifying
3) Shunsui talking as his face is ALSO reflected in his sword - O_O
4) Starrk and Lilinette are tragic and lovely, and did he want to die or what?
Shunsui officially has the scariest revealed sword, and somehow, he is still afraid of Unohana. Oh dear.
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Date: 2009-09-17 07:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-09-17 05:17 pm (UTC)Kyouraku's zanpakutou is now my new love I think, but I can see how he hates using it. Would be hard to fight with the games changing on you so easily. I love how he just rose out of the shadow and I also love how Kubo added in that panel with Love recognizing it and thus hinting at past spars between the two. The part where he threw off his haori and changed his color to black was great as well, what a move.
Stark's flashbacks tugged at my heart. Loneliness is just a pain to go through and to see your friends dying/fading out all around you because of your sheer strenght, ouch! Kubo conveyed their sadness very well. Splitting his soul because he didn't want to be alone, but I bet they still felt lonely since they knew they were technically one person. Perhaps his fight with the semi-serious Kyouraku will ease some of his loneliness?
I'm going to guess that Stark's swords are also formed from parts of his soul like the wolves. Still makes me wonder if parts of his soul faded away with the self-destruction of the wolves... maybe he just recalls the fragments later.
Neither Stark nor Shunsui are truly fighting seriously yet. Come on people, I want to see some power! And when that happens, Kubo will probably cut away to some other fight just to leave us hanging -__-
Now, off to imagine what Ukitake, Unohana and Yamamoto are capable of
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Date: 2009-09-17 05:24 pm (UTC)Kubo I love you!!!
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Date: 2009-09-17 05:26 pm (UTC)Thinking back on the filler arc in the anime... and knowing Katen Kyokotsu is that piratey big boobed woman... She scares me more now. That bad ass of a woman playing something like hopskotch with daggers or something.
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Date: 2009-09-17 05:32 pm (UTC)This chapter made me love both Shunsui and Stark more than I already do. Poor Starrk. I had a feeling that maybe his friends were killed or something tragic like that, but I didn't realize that his and Gingerback's (I'm so calling her that from now on XD) strength alone killed them. I could see, now, why he joined the Espada. Aizen convincing him isn't even necessary to show, I think. Aizen's strength alone probably drew Starrk. The guy wants to be around people as strong as him, so that he won't be lonely anymore :'(
And Shunsui. I can't stop raving about him :3 So much more was revealed about him. That's a pretty sick sword. Sick in both a groovy and cool way and sick in a twisted and demented way. I wasn't expecting that at all. I kinda like this twisted, creepy version of Shunsui, though. It was something I wasn't expecting. I never thought the guy who had his VC throw flowers at him when he made his entrance would be such a devious fellow. So unexpected, yet so perfect <3 Also, the panel of him reflected in the sword is probably my favorite of his, although there were many stunning ones of him.
And I still think Starrk's alive. His death (I do think he'll be dying) will be heartbreaking, I'm sure, since he'd be killed by an oponent he could actually be friends with :'( Please, prove me wrong, Kubo!!
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Date: 2009-09-17 07:39 pm (UTC)then shunsui and them could be friends =D
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Date: 2009-09-17 05:36 pm (UTC)That said I did like Starrk's flashback, so that was cool. Furthermore that panel where Shunsui attacks Starrk after he's thrown his cape took me FOREVER to decipher, it looks so damn weird I could hardly see what was going on.
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Date: 2009-09-17 06:45 pm (UTC)Katen is a sword that fights by playing children's games. If you're within the boundaries of the sword, you must abide by the rules of the game. Shunsui must play the game as well; he has no advantage, other than him apparently knowing the games already.
Some of the other games were described in a link somewhere, but basically the "taka oni" game is about who can be "taller" - essentially, the person who finds higher ground wins the game. The tall-game was not chosen by the sword for this round. The other game he mentioned was kage oni; if you get your shadow stepped on by another opponent, you lose. Kage oni opened the chapter, so apparently the other person does not need to be told that they're in the game for them to be in the game.
The one for most of the chapter was a color game, "iro oni". It looks like you alternate turns; given that it's a kid's game, probably no repeats. This is speculation, but I think you do damage based partly on where the color is on the other person, and the power is based on how much of it is on you. "Gray" did not do much to Starrk because Shunsui was wearing very little of it (though it hurt a lot); "White" did a lot of damage to Shunsui because Starrk was wearing a decent amount of white and Shunsui had his haori on. At the end, Shunsui was wearing nothing but black and it was his turn, hence the last page; Stark's outfit is trimmed in black.
That said, even if you aren't wearing much of the color, it hurt Starrk a LOT when he got sliced shallowly on the arm. The pain must be intensely awful.
My Japanese is god-awful, so someone fluent really needs to clarify, but "oni" is like monster/demon, and "kage" is shadow, "iro" is color. I don't know what "taka" is, but probably "height" or "tall". Take that for what you will until someone far wiser than me (you won't have to wait long) clarifies.
In short, the games are terrifying, but Shunsui nevertheless loves his sword. Damn. Also, he was willing to give hints to Starrk, even though I don't think that's necessary - jeez.
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Date: 2009-09-17 06:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-17 07:22 pm (UTC)So no one caught the song reference in Kubo's chapter title. Am I hoping too much?
'Cause the minute I saw it I thought of The Pillows so "White Summer And Green Bicycle, Red Hair With Black Guitar" from their "Thank You, My Twilight" (2002) album.
I'm totally lovin' Kubo <3
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Date: 2009-09-17 07:53 pm (UTC)...
Sorry. I'll let y'all get back to the srs business now >_>.
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Date: 2009-09-17 07:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-09-17 09:44 pm (UTC)I'm so glad to get more info on Hollow social structure. That settles some of my suspicions. Only weak Hollows can be in large groups. The less in the group, the stronger they are since the odds decrease of finding another Hollow strong enough to be near them.
That should apply to Arrancars as well. Someone like Szayel who has so many Fraccion can't be that strong. Up toward the other end of the scale would be someone like Neliel who was very strong back in the day (although not now, of course) with her two Fraccion.
Starrk's getting cut way too easily. Did splitting off all those wolves weaken him?
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Date: 2009-09-18 12:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-18 12:24 am (UTC)Just a random observation and I don't know if it means anything, but I did notice a similarity between this fight and the Grimmjow vs Ichigo fight.
At the end of the GrimmIchi fight, there's a very close close-up of Grimmjow's eye before he's stabbed by Ichigo. During this latest chapter, there's a very similiar close-up of Stark's eye before he's slashed by Shunsui.
Whether or not that means anything, I don't know, but it did strike as interesting to me.
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Date: 2009-09-18 04:53 am (UTC)What tore me up, tho, is Stark/Lili being too strong to have friends. Perhaps I'm just being hopeful, but Shun and Starrk have been talking about how strong the other is through this whole fight. Starrk's line about 'if we couldn't be weak, could we at least have a friend who is as strong as us?' makes me think that he's found one in Shunsui. Now the only question is, will it end tragically, with Starrk dying and telling Shunsui "you're the strongest I've ever fought. Too bad, we could have been friends, that would have pleased me" and then dying, or with Stark/Lili surviving and actually getting a chance to BE friends with Shunsui. (I can just see those two sacked out on roof somewhere together -- Shunsui drunk, and Stark just napping. Probably while Lili and Uncle Uki are off playing or having tea.)
*sniff*
If Stark/Lili dies. this is going to break my heart.
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Date: 2009-09-18 06:47 am (UTC)But I think they're going to die. The way Stark phrased that last sentence - "Could we at least have a friend who is as strong as us?" sounded like it was going to get a "no".
So sad, the life Hollows live.
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