I get some of the points that orin was trying to make here, but I disagree with the way she's chosen to attribute the blame for current circumstances.
Of course it's sad that there are innocent fans caught in the crossfire who cannot see all the information and goodies that the DB connections yield; I don't think anyone is disputing that. And of course, ideally, fandom would be a place where everyone shares everything they find and all fans have fun discussing it with each other; I don't think anyone's disputing that, either.
That is exactly how DB was trying to function, only to have their opinions mocked, their efforts derided, and their reputations slandered. And they're supposed to just ignore it and keep providing everything as before only to have their opinions continue to be mocked, their efforts continue to be derided, and their reputations slandered more because it's somehow more mature and less elitist to do so? Sorry; real life doesn't work that way.
No ass-kissing or insider status was required; all they wanted was respect for their efforts and everyone had all the information openly without having to lift a finger. Fandom didn't perform its side of the bargain (in fact, actively disrespected their efforts), so DB chose not to continue to perform theirs. It's really a rather simple concept.
Aside from that, as has been stated time and time again, it's not as if DB holds top secret information that cannot be found anywhere. It's not like Kubo popped in and told them everything having to do with Bleach was hereby given to them and them only to do with what they will, and the rest of fandom will never see it if they don't provide it. In fact, what they were providing was apparently not appreciated at all, ever, to hear some people go on. So as Debbie said, if fandom wants it, they are perfectly free to go get it themselves. Or find themselves someone else willing to share it all without reservation until their opinions are mocked, their efforts derided, and their reputations slandered. Then maybe someone else will take up the cause...or maybe that person will be so mature and unelitist that they'll continue to provide everything, and they'll thereafter be slated for canonization, I don't know.
I don't really care; I'm perfectly happy to respect the hard work, time, and effort that the DB admins put into providing their information, so they're perfectly willing to share with me just like they always did.
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Date: 2012-05-28 01:09 pm (UTC)Of course it's sad that there are innocent fans caught in the crossfire who cannot see all the information and goodies that the DB connections yield; I don't think anyone is disputing that. And of course, ideally, fandom would be a place where everyone shares everything they find and all fans have fun discussing it with each other; I don't think anyone's disputing that, either.
That is exactly how DB was trying to function, only to have their opinions mocked, their efforts derided, and their reputations slandered. And they're supposed to just ignore it and keep providing everything as before only to have their opinions continue to be mocked, their efforts continue to be derided, and their reputations slandered more because it's somehow more mature and less elitist to do so? Sorry; real life doesn't work that way.
No ass-kissing or insider status was required; all they wanted was respect for their efforts and everyone had all the information openly without having to lift a finger. Fandom didn't perform its side of the bargain (in fact, actively disrespected their efforts), so DB chose not to continue to perform theirs. It's really a rather simple concept.
Aside from that, as has been stated time and time again, it's not as if DB holds top secret information that cannot be found anywhere. It's not like Kubo popped in and told them everything having to do with Bleach was hereby given to them and them only to do with what they will, and the rest of fandom will never see it if they don't provide it. In fact, what they were providing was apparently not appreciated at all, ever, to hear some people go on. So as Debbie said, if fandom wants it, they are perfectly free to go get it themselves. Or find themselves someone else willing to share it all without reservation until their opinions are mocked, their efforts derided, and their reputations slandered. Then maybe someone else will take up the cause...or maybe that person will be so mature and unelitist that they'll continue to provide everything, and they'll thereafter be slated for canonization, I don't know.
I don't really care; I'm perfectly happy to respect the hard work, time, and effort that the DB admins put into providing their information, so they're perfectly willing to share with me just like they always did.